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		<title>Comment on Waitakere Ranges Regional Park redux by Judy Lawley</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/20/waitakere-ranges-regional-park-redux/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judy Lawley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At last we got there. It was pretty frustrating from where I sit repeatedly asking the Board to clarify the original resolution which I always believed was not worded correctly - I just coudn&#039;t get agreement to do this straight away - so much agro could have been prevented.  My apologies to everyone for being less than fully alert when the original resolution was passed.  I was concentrating at the time on my own portfolio area and have learned a salutory lesson that as Local Board members we are all responsible for all of our issues.  I intend to recommend in the new year that we do not have portfolios.  We are all learning how to organise our work in this experimental local government structure. 
Judy Lawley,
Waitakere Ranges Local  Board Member]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At last we got there. It was pretty frustrating from where I sit repeatedly asking the Board to clarify the original resolution which I always believed was not worded correctly &#8211; I just coudn&#8217;t get agreement to do this straight away &#8211; so much agro could have been prevented.  My apologies to everyone for being less than fully alert when the original resolution was passed.  I was concentrating at the time on my own portfolio area and have learned a salutory lesson that as Local Board members we are all responsible for all of our issues.  I intend to recommend in the new year that we do not have portfolios.  We are all learning how to organise our work in this experimental local government structure.<br />
Judy Lawley,<br />
Waitakere Ranges Local  Board Member</p>
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		<title>Comment on Waitakere Ranges Regional Park redux by Trixie and Bruce Harvey</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/20/waitakere-ranges-regional-park-redux/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trixie and Bruce Harvey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Greg and Denise, I knew you wanted only the best for the Reg Parks. The super city legislation is far from super!  Will give some thought over the break to ways of improving the feedback from community. Trixie Harvey]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Greg and Denise, I knew you wanted only the best for the Reg Parks. The super city legislation is far from super!  Will give some thought over the break to ways of improving the feedback from community. Trixie Harvey</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by Waitakere Ranges Regional Park redux &#171;</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Waitakere Ranges Regional Park redux &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I emphasise that the original resolution was in response to a clear statutory test and that the Board was somewhat &#8220;straight jacketed&#8221; in the way that it could respond. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I emphasise that the original resolution was in response to a clear statutory test and that the Board was somewhat &#8220;straight jacketed&#8221; in the way that it could respond. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by Trixie and Bruce Harvey</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trixie and Bruce Harvey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We understand that the shortcomings of the Local Body Act which has amalgamated Auckland has given rise to your response, but your minutes were ambiguous. We do not think that the co governance model will work under the present legislation but absolutely agree that the local board of the area should be consulted in regional park decisions, and their considered opinion should carry weight. However, the network needs to be managed as a whole for a myriad of reasons. The local boards should also have input into the classification of parks which I understand is going on at present. We predict that this is only the first instance which will demonstrate how inadequate was the thought that went into the setting up of Auckland City a year ago!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We understand that the shortcomings of the Local Body Act which has amalgamated Auckland has given rise to your response, but your minutes were ambiguous. We do not think that the co governance model will work under the present legislation but absolutely agree that the local board of the area should be consulted in regional park decisions, and their considered opinion should carry weight. However, the network needs to be managed as a whole for a myriad of reasons. The local boards should also have input into the classification of parks which I understand is going on at present. We predict that this is only the first instance which will demonstrate how inadequate was the thought that went into the setting up of Auckland City a year ago!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by sandra coney</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sandra coney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 05:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neil, Regarding Cimino&#039;s article about the Mahurangi Coastal Trail. I thought it very interesting and I am surprised you would use it to say the Auckland Regional Council also got it wrong. The fact is that no concept plan has been developed for Te Muri Regional Park and that would be the first step in developing the park. That process would allow everyone the chance to say how they wanted Te Muri developed, so let&#039;s not jump to conclusions. At this stage anything about the development of Te Muri is speculative

The bridge Cimino shows is attractive but Puhoi River is a wide span and I would predict that there would be opposition from some quarters. 

The current Regional Parks Management Plan has quite an emphasis on non-car-based access to regional parks but this is easier said than achieved. One of the attractions of the Te Muri purchase was its closeness to the metropolitan area.

There are proposals for walking, riding and kayaking trails using regional parks that are being discussed and developed right now. One of the many advantages of the regional parks network is being able to plan and make decisions across the network - eg so that recreational activities can be planned for in the right locations. For example, trails can be developed for mountain-biking and horse riding at suitable parks so they can be kept out of the Waitakeres (except for horse riding at Pae O Te Rangi) where they could cause damage. Waitawa was purchased and is being developed to cater for recreational activities where there is growing demand to take the pressure off other parks with high conservation values. 

Regional parks have policies about consultation and relationships with local communities and interest groups and talk and meet constantly, that is either through officers and also through councillors. There are also at least a dozen &quot;friends&quot; type groups with more formal arrangements. Any person or group can come to regional parks or myself directly and I welcome that. 

Sandra Coney]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, Regarding Cimino&#8217;s article about the Mahurangi Coastal Trail. I thought it very interesting and I am surprised you would use it to say the Auckland Regional Council also got it wrong. The fact is that no concept plan has been developed for Te Muri Regional Park and that would be the first step in developing the park. That process would allow everyone the chance to say how they wanted Te Muri developed, so let&#8217;s not jump to conclusions. At this stage anything about the development of Te Muri is speculative</p>
<p>The bridge Cimino shows is attractive but Puhoi River is a wide span and I would predict that there would be opposition from some quarters. </p>
<p>The current Regional Parks Management Plan has quite an emphasis on non-car-based access to regional parks but this is easier said than achieved. One of the attractions of the Te Muri purchase was its closeness to the metropolitan area.</p>
<p>There are proposals for walking, riding and kayaking trails using regional parks that are being discussed and developed right now. One of the many advantages of the regional parks network is being able to plan and make decisions across the network &#8211; eg so that recreational activities can be planned for in the right locations. For example, trails can be developed for mountain-biking and horse riding at suitable parks so they can be kept out of the Waitakeres (except for horse riding at Pae O Te Rangi) where they could cause damage. Waitawa was purchased and is being developed to cater for recreational activities where there is growing demand to take the pressure off other parks with high conservation values. </p>
<p>Regional parks have policies about consultation and relationships with local communities and interest groups and talk and meet constantly, that is either through officers and also through councillors. There are also at least a dozen &#8220;friends&#8221; type groups with more formal arrangements. Any person or group can come to regional parks or myself directly and I welcome that. </p>
<p>Sandra Coney</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by Mels Barton</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mels Barton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 03:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Greg and Neil for that clarification. I agree with Kubi. From what you have said it is clear your resolution needs to be changed to accurately reflect your intention. In doing this please remember that the political make up of any Local Board will change over time and the passing of the Heritage Area legislation was intended to give long term certainty over the future of the whole area. Let&#039;s not fall into the trap of having the regional park suffer from changes in political makeup of the board every 3 years. Ann&#039;s statement about increasing tourism is one of the key dangers to managing the regional parks with a local focus rather than a regional one. The Waitakere Ranges is a class 1 conservation park in the regional network - that is its main purpose. There are other parks in the network more appropriate for handling increased visitor numbers &amp; different types of recreation that would be damaging to the ecology of the Ranges. If you only look at one park and not at the network as a whole you will manage it in a completely different way - this is why they need to be managed regionally not locally. Have local input yes - but that is only part of the equation and certainly not the solution to a better managed park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Greg and Neil for that clarification. I agree with Kubi. From what you have said it is clear your resolution needs to be changed to accurately reflect your intention. In doing this please remember that the political make up of any Local Board will change over time and the passing of the Heritage Area legislation was intended to give long term certainty over the future of the whole area. Let&#8217;s not fall into the trap of having the regional park suffer from changes in political makeup of the board every 3 years. Ann&#8217;s statement about increasing tourism is one of the key dangers to managing the regional parks with a local focus rather than a regional one. The Waitakere Ranges is a class 1 conservation park in the regional network &#8211; that is its main purpose. There are other parks in the network more appropriate for handling increased visitor numbers &amp; different types of recreation that would be damaging to the ecology of the Ranges. If you only look at one park and not at the network as a whole you will manage it in a completely different way &#8211; this is why they need to be managed regionally not locally. Have local input yes &#8211; but that is only part of the equation and certainly not the solution to a better managed park.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by Kubi</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kubi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 09:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The minutes need to be able to stand alone.  &quot;decision making and oversight of the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park should be allocated to the Waitakere Ranges Local Board&quot; is a clear statement of a desire to take over the running of the Park from the Regional Network.  If that is not what you intended you shouldn&#039;t have made the resolution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The minutes need to be able to stand alone.  &#8220;decision making and oversight of the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park should be allocated to the Waitakere Ranges Local Board&#8221; is a clear statement of a desire to take over the running of the Park from the Regional Network.  If that is not what you intended you shouldn&#8217;t have made the resolution.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by walawnz</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[walawnz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 08:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Comment from Neil Henderson (the Technology stuffed up ...)

Hi Greg, Thanks for posting this .Could I please direct readers to the Auckland Council Strategy and finance committee meeting of November 30 (agenda posted publicly well before then) that deals with this issue. It is The Allocation of Non Regulatory Decision Making Responsibilities Item 17 (p223).( http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/committees/strategyfinancecommittee/meetings/strategyandfinancecomagitem13-2-2220111130.pdf)
This is the document we were responding to. As Greg has indicated, the restrictive way the Local Government Act was set up only provided us with an either or response, which was quite unsatisfactory to us as a Board, as we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. To reiterate that we were seeking some thing more than just input or consultation but that at no time were we advocating annexing the park from the Regional network.
 In the Committee meeting above it is apparent that our underlying, implied request for  greater input by the Board  was similarly understood by Auckland Council  .
 
Under Other Decision Making Options, p241 of the same document, &quot;Other decision-making options. The focus is currently on the allocation of decision-making responsibility to local boards.
However, there are other tools available to the governing body to involve local boards in the decision-making of Auckland Council. These include the following.
Delegations: The governing body can delegate its decision-making responsibilities to one or more local boards. This is not limited to regulatory decisions. The governing body can also delegate its non-regulatory decision-making responsibilities to local boards. A delegation allows for far more specific and detailed decision-making parameters than the allocation, and can be better tailored to specific circumstances.
This is particularly useful in circumstances such as the following.
• Where the governing body wishes to delegate part of a decision-making power while
retaining overall responsibility for the activity. An example might include a park that
contains a volcanic feature. It may be appropriate given the significance of the park, for
the governing body to retain the overall decision-making responsibility for major
decisions, but delegate decisions relating to local community use and activity within
that park to the relevant local board.
• Where the governing body wishes to delegate a recommendatory role to a local board.
This provides a local board with a formal role while the governing body retains
decision-making. This might be appropriate for a regional park that has strong local
significance (such as the Waitakere Ranges).
Delegations can be standing delegations that apply to all local boards or delegations to an individual local board for a specific purpose.&quot;
 
 This consideration of a heightened formal recommendatory role is what I understand to be the essence of what the Board was trying to achieve. It is not an attempt to take control but to simply gain a place a bit closer to the table so that we are not always collecting the scraps off the floor of last nights feast.
Finally, we must remember that the ARC is no longer with us despite the fact that we continue to enjoy the legacy of its Regional Parks Network largely unaltered. Change IS afoot though, and an examination of the status of ALL the parks in the Auckland Region was already underway before the Waitakere Ranges responded to the above Allocations paper. The mobilisation of various concerned groups around Auckland in response to the challenge presented by the Waitakere Ranges Local Board, especially with it being synchronous with the renewal of Joint Residents and Ratepayers meetings in Waitakere,can only be a good thing. Forewarned is forearmed.Even the ARC was not perfect as a recent email  circulating about the mahurangi Coastal Trail  indicates, so why would we expect Regional Parks under the new Council to be different.(http://www.mahurangi.org.nz/Coastal-Trail/Mahurangi-Coastal-Trail.php). Local groups made a difference in Mahurangi and Local groups and Local Boards can work together to make a real difference in the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment from Neil Henderson (the Technology stuffed up &#8230;)</p>
<p>Hi Greg, Thanks for posting this .Could I please direct readers to the Auckland Council Strategy and finance committee meeting of November 30 (agenda posted publicly well before then) that deals with this issue. It is The Allocation of Non Regulatory Decision Making Responsibilities Item 17 (p223).( <a href="http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/committees/strategyfinancecommittee/meetings/strategyandfinancecomagitem13-2-2220111130.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/SiteCollectionDocuments/aboutcouncil/committees/strategyfinancecommittee/meetings/strategyandfinancecomagitem13-2-2220111130.pdf</a>)<br />
This is the document we were responding to. As Greg has indicated, the restrictive way the Local Government Act was set up only provided us with an either or response, which was quite unsatisfactory to us as a Board, as we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t. To reiterate that we were seeking some thing more than just input or consultation but that at no time were we advocating annexing the park from the Regional network.<br />
 In the Committee meeting above it is apparent that our underlying, implied request for  greater input by the Board  was similarly understood by Auckland Council  .</p>
<p>Under Other Decision Making Options, p241 of the same document, &#8220;Other decision-making options. The focus is currently on the allocation of decision-making responsibility to local boards.<br />
However, there are other tools available to the governing body to involve local boards in the decision-making of Auckland Council. These include the following.<br />
Delegations: The governing body can delegate its decision-making responsibilities to one or more local boards. This is not limited to regulatory decisions. The governing body can also delegate its non-regulatory decision-making responsibilities to local boards. A delegation allows for far more specific and detailed decision-making parameters than the allocation, and can be better tailored to specific circumstances.<br />
This is particularly useful in circumstances such as the following.<br />
• Where the governing body wishes to delegate part of a decision-making power while<br />
retaining overall responsibility for the activity. An example might include a park that<br />
contains a volcanic feature. It may be appropriate given the significance of the park, for<br />
the governing body to retain the overall decision-making responsibility for major<br />
decisions, but delegate decisions relating to local community use and activity within<br />
that park to the relevant local board.<br />
• Where the governing body wishes to delegate a recommendatory role to a local board.<br />
This provides a local board with a formal role while the governing body retains<br />
decision-making. This might be appropriate for a regional park that has strong local<br />
significance (such as the Waitakere Ranges).<br />
Delegations can be standing delegations that apply to all local boards or delegations to an individual local board for a specific purpose.&#8221;</p>
<p> This consideration of a heightened formal recommendatory role is what I understand to be the essence of what the Board was trying to achieve. It is not an attempt to take control but to simply gain a place a bit closer to the table so that we are not always collecting the scraps off the floor of last nights feast.<br />
Finally, we must remember that the ARC is no longer with us despite the fact that we continue to enjoy the legacy of its Regional Parks Network largely unaltered. Change IS afoot though, and an examination of the status of ALL the parks in the Auckland Region was already underway before the Waitakere Ranges responded to the above Allocations paper. The mobilisation of various concerned groups around Auckland in response to the challenge presented by the Waitakere Ranges Local Board, especially with it being synchronous with the renewal of Joint Residents and Ratepayers meetings in Waitakere,can only be a good thing. Forewarned is forearmed.Even the ARC was not perfect as a recent email  circulating about the mahurangi Coastal Trail  indicates, so why would we expect Regional Parks under the new Council to be different.(<a href="http://www.mahurangi.org.nz/Coastal-Trail/Mahurangi-Coastal-Trail.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.mahurangi.org.nz/Coastal-Trail/Mahurangi-Coastal-Trail.php</a>). Local groups made a difference in Mahurangi and Local groups and Local Boards can work together to make a real difference in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by Ann Degia-Pala</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann Degia-Pala]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 04:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe Local Parks fall in the local unitary plan, therefore it would be better served by local boards... I am really in no position to talk about sell off of our Parks, environment is not a low priority in Waitakere, however there  could be some tourism revenue generated out west which will benefit the  economic status.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Local Parks fall in the local unitary plan, therefore it would be better served by local boards&#8230; I am really in no position to talk about sell off of our Parks, environment is not a low priority in Waitakere, however there  could be some tourism revenue generated out west which will benefit the  economic status.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Local Board and the Waitakere Ranges Regional Park by Barbara Thomborson</title>
		<link>http://futurewest.org.nz/2011/12/09/the-local-board-and-the-waitakere-ranges-regional-park/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Thomborson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 01:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kia ora.  Brian Rudman expressed my views in his column today [Friday, 9 Dec.].  The Regional parks should stay that way - regional, rather than be at the mercy of local politicians who would find it too easy to sell them to developers.  Besides, the local boards are poorly funded; how would they find the money to maintain them?  Sadly, the environment is too often a low priority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kia ora.  Brian Rudman expressed my views in his column today [Friday, 9 Dec.].  The Regional parks should stay that way &#8211; regional, rather than be at the mercy of local politicians who would find it too easy to sell them to developers.  Besides, the local boards are poorly funded; how would they find the money to maintain them?  Sadly, the environment is too often a low priority.</p>
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